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Llyren
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Joined: 11 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Nov 30, 2003 22:34    Post subject: Computer screen brightness View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

The contrast and brightness on my monitor are already set as high as they go, but my screen is still abnormally dark. Is there any way to get it any brighter?

Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2003 22:37    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

If your graphics card support brightness control, that's one way to go.

Taton
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PostPosted: Dec 01, 2003 02:41    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Get a new Monitor.

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japh
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PostPosted: Dec 01, 2003 17:40    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Check your OS's gamma setting, that might help.

Note that I'm talking through a hat here, I don't actually know if that'll work. But the word 'gamma' is involved, I think.

Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Dec 01, 2003 17:44    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Well, he either has a problem with his contrast and brightness, or with the gamma, or with both. But since he said it was a brightness/contrast problem, I assumed it was a brightness/contrast problem. Gamma correction is good, but it won't help him if that's not the problem.

Llyren
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Joined: 11 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 00:10    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I believe it's a gamma correction problem, since the monitor is too dark even with the contrast and brightness up all the way. Anybody know how I can access my gamma settings? I'm running Windows 98 and have a Voodoo 3000. (I tried turning up the gain on the primary colors from the monitor menu, and while that increased brightness a little bit, it put in way too much contrast, so that's not what I'm looking for.)

Mattias Welander
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Joined: 27 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 00:12    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

From what I heard, 3dfx never implemented hardware gamma correction in their cards. I could be wrong - I abandoned 3dfx quite early.

Llyren
Dark Trooper Phase 1

Joined: 11 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 00:29    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I wouldn't be surprised - I looked through the advanced display options and there's nothing listed.

What are "color profiles," and might those do anything to fix the problem?

Mattias Welander
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Joined: 27 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 00:39    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Color profiles are different curves for the three color channels used to compensate for different color implementations between different cards and monitors. If the card doesn't support hardware gamma, it most certainly will not support hardware color profiles. And no, even if it does support hardware color profiles, it won't help you, because they're not the problem.

Llyren
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Joined: 11 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 03:39    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Well, my card supports them... fat lot of good they'll do me, I suppose. Thanks for the info, Mattias.

Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 09:11    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Well, it has to be hardware color profiles. Windows supports software color profiles on all graphics cards.

Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon

Joined: 28 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 15:47    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

How old is the monitor?

I had an old 7 year old monitor that was abnormally dark and blurry. I had to have the tint and brightness set to the max to get it even remotely right. Then I made a custom color profile which helped a little bit. Then the whole thing went berserk on me and started acting like an old Television and started making weird noises and went all fuzzy. Then finally, after about 2 weeks without a computer, I got a new plasma flat screen. It was heaven! Not only is it clearer and cleaner looking, but it actually fits on my tiny desk.

So with that story, I can only think you may be headed down the same road as me. So here are my suggestions.

1. Deguasse the screen (should be an option on any screen)
2. Change Brightness and Tint
3. Change color profile to fit the screen
4. Just buy a new monitor. It's only gonna crap out on you eventually.

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Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 17:05    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

A plasma screen? Are you a billionair?

Tom Manning
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 18:46    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Are you talking about one of the Apple flat screens? I think a plasma would be terribly expensive, do they even make Plasma moniters?

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Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 18:50    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Yeah, they do, but they're in the 12500 US$ range, larger than 20" in size, and with very low resolution. Or something like that - I've not exactly looked deeply into buying one.

Nottheking
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 23:16    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Even the Mac Plasma screen is a few thousand US dollars, isn't it? And if it fits on your "tiny desk", I suspect that it may be a different type of flat screen, such as a TFT display, which come far cheaper, and still have good quality, while allowing for decent resolution.

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Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 23:18    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Hm... you're saying they've succeeded in making a small plasma screen now?

Tom Manning
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 23:32    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

King, I don't think you fully understand Plasma. I don't know exactly what it means, but not every flat screen is a plasma screen.

Also, I agree, I don't think that the reselution would be good enough for a computer moniter.

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Tom Manning
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 23:33    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

King, I don't think you fully understand Plasma. I don't know exactly what it means, but not every flat screen is a plasma screen.

Also, I agree, I don't think that the reselution would be good enough for a computer moniter.

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Llyren
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 23:38    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Wow, it sure looks different around here... I found a toolkit on the install CD that had the gamma options I needed. Yay!

Burning Gundam
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 23:53    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Mine is actually fitted for both PC and Mac. It's a Hercules 12" X 14" and it was around $400 US.

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Nottheking
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PostPosted: Dec 02, 2003 23:58    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Mattias Welander wrote:
Hm... you're saying they've succeeded in making a small plasma screen now?


No... If I remember, Apple made a plasma flat-screen. It only cost about $5000 US, and was around 30 inches wide. It was cheaper and smaller than the others availible, though.

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Nottheking
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PostPosted: Dec 03, 2003 00:00    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Tom Manning wrote:
King, I don't think you fully understand Plasma. I don't know exactly what it means, but not every flat screen is a plasma screen.

Also, I agree, I don't think that the reselution would be good enough for a computer moniter.


No, I do understand plasma. I was simply implying that he got a flat-screen that wasn't plasma. TFT, if I remember, is much cheaper, as it works by a grid of LEDs, instead of a grid of gas cells.

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Nottheking
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PostPosted: Dec 03, 2003 00:05    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Burning Gundam wrote:
Mine is actually fitted for both PC and Mac. It's a Hercules 12" X 14" and it was around $400 US.


That would suggest that you got a monitor that definitely WAS NOT plasma... I'm guessing TFT, the more common form seen today. They're not that bad... and their resolution, while diminished compared to what you could get out of a comparably-priced CRT monitor, they still have the advantage of being small enough to move, and fit much better, due to their reduced depth.

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Llyren
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PostPosted: Dec 03, 2003 01:03    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

You can fit all that in one post, NTK. Smile

Tom Manning
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PostPosted: Dec 03, 2003 03:12    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Nottheking wrote:
Mattias Welander wrote:
Hm... you're saying they've succeeded in making a small plasma screen now?


No... If I remember, Apple made a plasma flat-screen. It only cost about $5000 US, and was around 30 inches wide. It was cheaper and smaller than the others availible, though.



No I am pretty up on Apple and I visit their shop at a mall here in Texas quite oftain. The bigist moniter they have is 23' and I don't belive it is Plasma.

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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon

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PostPosted: Dec 03, 2003 17:42    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Ahh, I don't care. It's a flat screen that works and fits nicely on my desk. What more could I want?

Besides, we do have a plasma screen, but I don't use it. And you're right. It was very expensive. About $1000 when we bought it.

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PostPosted: Dec 03, 2003 18:21    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I wonder if plasma screens will actually have a chance to become mainstream? However, that gas cell construction is going to remain expensive for a long time...

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PostPosted: Dec 03, 2003 18:22    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Llyren wrote:
I tried turning up the gain on the primary colors from the monitor menu, and while that increased brightness a little bit, it put in way too much contrast



Sooo then turn the contrast down. :p

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Llyren
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PostPosted: Dec 04, 2003 03:52    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I did, but it got too dark... long story. My monitor's weird.

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