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milo_antu
Gamorrean
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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 Posted: Jun 02, 2008 17:59 Post subject: Is The Dark Tide continueing? |
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I don't know if I missed anything on this because i don't get too much time to read through all the threads but, is DT still going? Is there going to be a DT5?
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sheepandshepherd
Trandoshan
Joined: 01 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Jun 02, 2008 19:30 Post subject: |
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Hmm . . . last I heard, they weren't planning on continuing it . . . I'll try to look up the thread again sometime . . .
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The MAZZTer
Death Star
Joined: 25 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jun 03, 2008 16:52 Post subject: |
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The original original plan was for DT5 to be made for Jedi Academy. I think the new plan is to never ever ever do any DT work ever again.
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sheepandshepherd
Trandoshan
Joined: 01 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Jun 03, 2008 16:58 Post subject: |
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What was that Xizor's Palace level they released with the Beyond the Ancient stuff? I never got a chance to check it out, and the only copy I had was on my now crashed hard drive . . .
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jun 03, 2008 18:19 Post subject: |
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With the amount of work and effort they put into it, I'm not surprised they'd be done with it for good. But who knows?
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The MAZZTer
Death Star
Joined: 25 Sep 2003
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sheepandshepherd
Trandoshan
Joined: 01 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 01:00 Post subject: |
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That's not what I meant, I have really slow internet, so I don't feel like downloading it right now.
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TheIntellectual
Ree-Yees
Joined: 20 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 13:08 Post subject: |
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Sadly, I could never get the included Palace.gob to work properly. It always had some sort of bizarre memory problem whenever I gave it a go.
Shame too, as the TIE fighter ending at part 4 is a build up to... nothing.
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milo_antu
Gamorrean
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 15:39 Post subject: |
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Why is that they wont do the DT work again? Something with the copyright? And does that mean no kind of sequels as well?
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The MAZZTer
Death Star
Joined: 25 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 18:42 Post subject: |
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YOU try working on four large projects for a 13 year old game without wanting to move on to something different.
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Dreamland
Dianoga
Joined: 17 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Jun 04, 2008 22:35 Post subject: |
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A shame really. I need to catch up with the series, and I'm curious to see how the Palace.gob looks as last time I saw it, maybe 4 years ago, if not 5, it had a lot of promise.
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milo_antu
Gamorrean
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Jun 05, 2008 19:45 Post subject: |
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yeah, I guess, considering how time consuming it is looking at DT4, still...the suspense of it all.
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Magic_Al
Gamorrean
Joined: 22 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Jun 10, 2008 03:42 Post subject: |
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I'm so enthused about DarkXL I'm waiting to play the last couple DT chapters through that rather than mess with Dark Forces/DOSBox. With crashing and glitches I got stuck early in DT3 and DT4 and never got back to them. I was spoiled by the high-res Mac version of DF, which I can no longer run, and the DOS version is a step backwards for me. DarkXL goes forward and will render the DT saga the way it deserves to be seen.
In light of DarkXL, perhaps the idea of doing DT5 for Jedi Academy makes less sense than doing it for Dark Forces, with DarkXL in mind. I think DarkXL has some potential to rejuvenate Dark Forces editing because results will look much more satisfying. Building the same worlds in full 3D and HD for Jedi Academy seems to exhaust many more man-hours without actually producing more playable content. There's something to be said for DF's relative simplicity -- it's doable.
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sheepandshepherd
Trandoshan
Joined: 01 Apr 2008
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I agree, it's always been so much easier to make a level in DF than in the newer 3D engines. Mapping in high-detail 3D games takes soooo much more time and effort. And still, despite DF's lower graphical appeal, I've seen so much more work put into DF levels than anything else . . . I've played a lot of mods for a lot of games, but DF levels like Dark Tide and Ironfort are still at the top of my list.
It's just too bad the creators of Dark Tide never got a chance to finish the series, I was really hoping for a good ending . . . I wish we could contact them somehow. Maybe if they heard about DarkXL one of them would eventually wrap up Xizor's Palace and complete the best DF series ever made . . .
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Darth Oosha
Trandoshan
Joined: 24 Sep 2003
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jun 10, 2008 05:34 Post subject: |
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sheepandshepherd wrote:
I agree, it's always been so much easier to make a level in DF than in the newer 3D engines. Mapping in high-detail 3D games takes soooo much more time and effort. And still, despite DF's lower graphical appeal, I've seen so much more work put into DF levels than anything else . . . I've played a lot of mods for a lot of games, but DF levels like Dark Tide and Ironfort are still at the top of my list.
It's just too bad the creators of Dark Tide never got a chance to finish the series, I was really hoping for a good ending . . . I wish we could contact them somehow. Maybe if they heard about DarkXL one of them would eventually wrap up Xizor's Palace and complete the best DF series ever made . . .
Ditto. I actually "tried" making a level for JA last year. And when I say tried, I mean I loaded the program once, poked around for a bit, quit it, and never opened the application ever again.
I've had the most fun making DF levels because even with its limitations, it can still get incredibly detailed and best of all, with a little practice becomes incredibly easy.
And thanks to the DarkXL project, I can rekindle my beloved hobby 
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lucius
DarkXL Developer
Joined: 17 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Jun 10, 2008 07:00 Post subject: |
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Burning Gundam wrote:
sheepandshepherd wrote:
I agree, it's always been so much easier to make a level in DF than in the newer 3D engines. Mapping in high-detail 3D games takes soooo much more time and effort. And still, despite DF's lower graphical appeal, I've seen so much more work put into DF levels than anything else . . . I've played a lot of mods for a lot of games, but DF levels like Dark Tide and Ironfort are still at the top of my list.
It's just too bad the creators of Dark Tide never got a chance to finish the series, I was really hoping for a good ending . . . I wish we could contact them somehow. Maybe if they heard about DarkXL one of them would eventually wrap up Xizor's Palace and complete the best DF series ever made . . .
Ditto. I actually "tried" making a level for JA last year. And when I say tried, I mean I loaded the program once, poked around for a bit, quit it, and never opened the application ever again.
I've had the most fun making DF levels because even with its limitations, it can still get incredibly detailed and best of all, with a little practice becomes incredibly easy.
And thanks to the DarkXL project, I can rekindle my beloved hobby
What's interesting is that will just a few more features -- most of which were in Outlaws -- you can make architecture that is very 3D looking in a sector engine with little extra work. The main problem is that with Outlaws, only 1 vertical adjoin per-sector was possible. When I implement the extended feature in DarkXL, a top and bottom adjoin will both be possible which really opens up the architectural possibilities (when used in addition to the other features that Outlaws did add to the Jedi engine such as slopes and dual adjoins).
It'll be fun to see what levels people come up with. So who's making the need Dark Tide quality epic?
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Matt H
Dark Trooper Phase 1
Joined: 24 Sep 2003
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I can't speak for Patrick or Barry, but it is doubtful that there will ever be a DT5. 
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jun 10, 2008 23:21 Post subject: |
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What about at least a short story? I would be satisfied with that.
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Darth Oosha
Trandoshan
Joined: 24 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Aug 27, 2008 00:29 Post subject: |
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I'm not sure I would, but maybe a script/outline and dialog recordings that could be used by someone else to build it someday?
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Patrick Haslow
Trandoshan
Joined: 25 Sep 2003
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Aug 28, 2008 00:54 Post subject: |
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I just think leaving things the way they are now is kind of anti-climactic, I would love something that gave it a sense of closure in some way as I know DTV is out of the question.
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milo_antu
Gamorrean
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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Patrick Haslow
Trandoshan
Joined: 25 Sep 2003
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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milo_antu
Gamorrean
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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LawgSkrak
Dianoga
Joined: 15 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Sep 19, 2008 13:29 Post subject: |
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Where do you download Dark Tide 4? I don't see it on the DT website.
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sep 19, 2008 15:23 Post subject: |
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Just download it from here...?
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milo_antu
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Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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LawgSkrak
Dianoga
Joined: 15 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Sep 19, 2008 22:02 Post subject: |
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OKay I just downloaded parts 1-4 and got them to work.
Now, has anybody done up walkthroughs for these? (please say yes)
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