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Magic_Al
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PostPosted: Jun 20, 2008 22:56    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

klasodeth wrote:
My one complaint about the latest version is the Dark Trooper depicted. For whatever reason it comes off looking like a large-eyed alien or some sort of ethereal spirit. Having the Arc Hammer in the center of the screen seems to be more appropriate than an image of the Dark Trooper. Perhaps the Dark Trooper should be moved away from the center and given a more definite form so we can see its outline.

Otherwise, the current version is an amazing improvement over your original version.



Thanks. Long story, my original artwork (12 years ago) had the box-art stormtrooper in the center "sun" and back then I got criticized for not having a Dark Trooper (there was no good image available). So now it has a Dark Trooper. The ethereal aspect is to preserve a little mystique. Showing more would be like putting the Cloverfield monster on the movie poster. The Dark Trooper, not the ship they come from, is the central menace in the game. Darth Maul's eyes on the Episode I poster is an example I'm following in a different way.

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klasodeth
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PostPosted: Jun 20, 2008 23:02    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Point taken.

I do wonder how the Dark Trooper would look if it the image was significantly larger and basically placed in a layer behind all the other characters, almost as a threat looming over everyone. That might keep it on the darker side and keep it from looking too ghostly.

Magic_Al
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 01:41    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

klasodeth wrote:
Point taken.

I do wonder how the Dark Trooper would look if it the image was significantly larger and basically placed in a layer behind all the other characters, almost as a threat looming over everyone. That might keep it on the darker side and keep it from looking too ghostly.



So now we have another choice.


EDIT: another variation of this would put the menu buttons stacked vertically in the middle of the lens flare, maybe leave out the ships. It might also look good to do the logo in solid red because the silver/tan logo doesn't stand out from the grayness in this compared to my other design.

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Ryuichi91
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 02:07    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I'd say that pic looks pretty cool so its got my vote

Tsophika
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 03:41    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I've got a screen I'm working on. I'll get it up soon, lucius.

lucius
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 05:25    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Tsophika wrote:
I've got a screen I'm working on. I'll get it up soon, lucius.


Ok. I'll set up a poll after that then, unless someone else speaks up before hand.

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Pumpkinetics
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 09:22    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I'm also working on one, although I have a basic demo version if anyone wants to see:

url=http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/Pumpkinetics/Miscellaneous/?action=view&current=DarkXLlauncherproto.png][/url]

(Click for notes)

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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 11:47    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I'm also working on one, although I have a basic demo version if anyone wants to see:



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(GAH! ccidental double post! Could someone with mod powers please remove my first post?)

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The MAZZTer
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 14:41    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

I assume it will have more than three colors when you're done with it?

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sheepandshepherd
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 16:48    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Magic_Al wrote:
So now we have another choice.


EDIT: another variation of this would put the menu buttons stacked vertically in the middle of the lens flare, maybe leave out the ships. It might also look good to do the logo in solid red because the silver/tan logo doesn't stand out from the grayness in this compared to my other design.


Hmmm . . . I like it . . . Not sure about the menu buttons, though, I wouldn't want them in the middle of everything . . . but I agree, the title text should be more red and less pink . . . experiment a little with gradients and see which would look the best in your opinion.

Pumpkinetics, the Dark Trooper/Imperial logo is a good idea, but I agree that it should be a little more detailed . . . Maybe you could have a sort of "group photo" of all three phases of Dark Troopers Smile
Also, with your basic layout it may be better to use different menu buttons besides the DF style buttons, they wouldn't fit in at all . . .

Magic_Al
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 20:21    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Revised with alternate button placement and miscellaneous polishing.



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Gez
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 22:00    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Magic_Al wrote:
Creative decision. All the characters are still transparent (mostly) but the stars were removed because they lacked context to be understood as background and came across as foreground blemishes. The planet doesn't have that problem. It doesn't make consistent physical sense but we're talking about an abstract composition. So, no. Smile



Okay, but then what about lowering Jabba a bit so that there's no longer a part of his head that gets cut off by the sudden color change?

sheepandshepherd
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 22:23    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Magic_Al wrote:
Revised with alternate button placement and miscellaneous polishing.



Awesome, I like it. Especially the redness around the DT's head. I'm still not sure putting the buttons in the middle is a good idea though . . .
btw, where did you get that particular dark trooper? I like it, and I haven't seen many decent DT photos . . .

Weregoose
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PostPosted: Jun 21, 2008 23:17    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

sheepandshepherd wrote:
btw, where did you get that particular dark trooper? I like it, and I haven't seen many decent DT photos . . .

That's this guy, actually – but not this very image.

I agree with the point of bringing the buttons back down, and I would also have them arranged horizontally, for the reason that it's easier to click down on the one that you intend to select rather than accidentally hit a different one. And... the purple arc kinda bugs me, too, when it's in front of the characters. (That's my personal inclination.)

Magic_Al
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PostPosted: Jun 22, 2008 03:04    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

To please the crowd, no more transparency, buttons back at the bottom.



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Pumpkinetics
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PostPosted: Jun 22, 2008 08:59    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Here's my semi-finalized version of my DXL title screen graphic- Suggestions for improvement welcome.



(Note: The buttons on the selection doodad, rather than highlighting green as in the game, simply depress. The light still flashes red, though. Also If anyone wants the base DXL logo as a bitmap or SVG I'd be happy to oblige)

Base art:


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Weregoose
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PostPosted: Jun 22, 2008 13:08    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I'm curious what you think of this version:



With "Launch" being centered on (768,752) and the others lowered 32 and laterally shifted 192 in both directions.

(I'd be perfectly happy with the way it is without this suggestion.)

Magic_Al
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PostPosted: Jun 22, 2008 14:26    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Weregoose wrote:
With "Launch" being centered on (768,752) and the others lowered 32 and laterally shifted 192 in both directions.



That seems off to me, sorry.

Pumpkinetics wrote:
Here's my semi-finalized version of my DXL title screen graphic- Suggestions for improvement welcome.



Looks like I have some high quality competition! And I see I need to fix the K in my logo. You got a detail that I missed.

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Magic_Al
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PostPosted: Jun 23, 2008 07:14    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Freshly tweaked logo (many barely noticeable changes): Very Happy



And I got inspired by Pumpkinetics logo and did it old-school ESB-style (which totally doesn't go with his background):



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lucius
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PostPosted: Jun 23, 2008 20:20    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Magic_Al wrote:
Freshly tweaked logo (many barely noticeable changes): Very Happy

...

And I got inspired by Pumpkinetics logo and did it old-school ESB-style (which totally doesn't go with his background):

...


I prefer your first title myself - which looks really good by the way.

Now I was thinking about getting the poll started soon, can you post all the final mockups that you'd like to be considered? If its just one, that's fine but I get the feeling there are several alternatives you'd like to consider.

Is there anyone else still working on entries? If so please post so I don't start the poll without you. Smile

Pumpkinetics, is your post final or are you still working on it? I know you said "semi-final" in your post, I'm just checking to make sure that didn't change. If you're still working on it, I'd suggest you remove the "GPU" if its not too much work. Not everyone knows what a GPU is and it seems redundant, which is why it was removed from the current title.

And I would need the title as a seperate file in addition to the title screen from the winner. I'm planning on using the title graphics on the website to replace the plain text that is there now.

Thanks for all the work. Very Happy

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sheepandshepherd
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PostPosted: Jun 23, 2008 21:27    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

The tweaked first title is a little darker now, right? I like that better than the pinkish tint on the old version. And I agree, the first one (not the ESB style one) fits better to Magic_Al's current title screen.

Pumpkinetics - I think, like Magic_Al said, you should probably change the title text. I don't really know what would fit good with your background . . . and one more thing, the Imperial logo looks kind of wierd with the rounded shading, it might be better to make it more straight-edged . . . if you want to do that, of course Smile

Tsophika
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PostPosted: Jun 24, 2008 03:08    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I'll get my title up tonight... don't start without me!

Magic_Al
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PostPosted: Jun 24, 2008 03:11    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

sheepandshepherd wrote:
The tweaked first title is a little darker now, right? I like that better than the pinkish tint on the old version.



I don't think it was ever pink! Check your display calibration. Wink I did change the gradients as well as character shapes, letter spacing, layer effects and scaling.

lucius wrote:
Is there anyone else still working on entries? If so please post so I don't start the poll without you.



I'm still tweaking things and making buttons. I'll make a post soon that specifies what my "final" submissions are. Might be tonight, might be tomorrow night.

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sheepandshepherd
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PostPosted: Jun 24, 2008 03:23    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Haha, I know, I just thought it was a little too light at first Twisted Evil

lucius
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PostPosted: Jun 24, 2008 07:09    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Magic_Al wrote:
sheepandshepherd wrote:
The tweaked first title is a little darker now, right? I like that better than the pinkish tint on the old version.



I don't think it was ever pink! Check your display calibration. Wink I did change the gradients as well as character shapes, letter spacing, layer effects and scaling.

lucius wrote:
Is there anyone else still working on entries? If so please post so I don't start the poll without you.



I'm still tweaking things and making buttons. I'll make a post soon that specifies what my "final" submissions are. Might be tonight, might be tomorrow night.



Sounds good.

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Tsophika
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PostPosted: Jun 25, 2008 08:31    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Work has kept me busy, but I finally have a title screen:



lucius
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PostPosted: Jun 25, 2008 08:40    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Nice job Tsophika, that looks pretty good.

I was going to handle mods off the Options or settings screen but I could go directly to that dialog too. I haven't really worked on the mod options yet since they won't make it into the next build (except the command line already promised) so I'm flexible.

Do you have a full resolution version? And how do the buttons work (do they highlight, depress, etc.)? Would it be easy to change the screenshots used, some of those use the old hud font and old FOV?

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Tsophika
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PostPosted: Jun 25, 2008 08:54    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

The buttons will depress and text will glow blue. The buttons as well as the screens are easily interchangeable.

Finally, Imageshack has a 1.5MB limit, but the full TGA or PNG is available upon request. Smile

lucius
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PostPosted: Jun 25, 2008 09:13    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Tsophika, if I give you replacement shots for the 3 screenshots that use the old font, can you replace them? Would it be too hard to take "GPU" out of the subtitle, I'm thinking of removing it like the current title screen this would replace if it wins? If its too hard, then don't worry about it.

Other then that it looks good, I'll definitely include this in the poll. Thanks for all the hard work. Smile

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Pumpkinetics
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PostPosted: Jun 25, 2008 10:39    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I finalized my submission, so here it is:

Composition:


Base art:


(Notes on changes: Adjusted wireframe, reverted imperial logo to red, changed DXL logo and SubText colour, Skewed DXL logo, changed "Gpu accelerated Dark forces extended" to "Hardware accelerated Dark Forces" [which seems a little more coherent], can change the text again if needed)

(EDIT: Got rid of the logo altogether for the mockup. It just didn't fit)

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