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[Gez]

[Burning Gundam]

[GreggD]

"Bumps in the hope that Lucius has something to say, soon"

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[sheepandshepherd]

Lol, you mentioned a certain "exciting update" for this week.

I only have one class a day until my dual credit classes start next Monday, so I'll have plenty of time

[Emon]

Not to be a smartass but I recall mentioning something about projects lead by a single individual, stagnation over time and the need for open source...

[Jon`C]

Making a project open does not automatically generate worthwhile contributions.

[lucius]

Sorry about the delay, I didn't have as much time last week as anticipated for all my projects. Still planning an update later this week, however.

And to follow up on the comment made by Jon`C, I've seen plenty of Open Source projects stagnate for years and then die.

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[Jon`C]

Mine being one of them.

[GreggD]

[Emon]

[sheepandshepherd]

Hey lucius, should we still report bugs on the old codeplex site, or on this forum? Btw, did you see the ones I posted a few days ago?

[GreggD]

[Tsophika]

Anybody who has worked on a large personal project knows that no matter how hard you may try, said project takes longer than originally anticipated. There is no deadline, no contract and life does take precedence.

We have to give Lucius tremendous credit for tackling something of this scope - and bringing interest to a 14 year old game.

This is his personal project. If there was effective interest in an open source engine, it would have been started a long time ago.

[GreggD]

[Emon]

[The MAZZTer]

[lucius]

[lucius]

As for the discussion between Emon and others here:

I appreciate the response from GreggD, Jon'C and others. I also understand Emon's point of view, he feels that open sourcing the project will "keep the project alive." While I disagree with him, he means well and really wants what everyone else here wants - for the project to continue and succeed. So now that we've hopefully reached an understanding, there is no need for this argument to continue. It should be clear, that while I haven't been as active here as in the past - I haven't disappeared and the project isn't dead.

So what now? Well there is one beautiful thing this project - I just continue and the project continues. There is no team to reform or lack of direction.

So why less active? Is DarkXL no longer important? Of course not. Some of the time was legitimate real life things, but I have to admit another part of it is that I'm human and haven't been scheduling my time as well as I have in the past and perhaps spending too much time on other things. But DarkXL will certainly continue and be finished.

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[lucius]

Also I'm considering moving the DarkXL site to a wordpress blog. There are lots of tools I find valuable for DaggerXL, it's simpler to add new content, iteration times are much quicker, etc. The website was a bit cumbersome to modify and so I didn't keep it updated as well as I should.

So what do you guys think about that?

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[GreggD]

I think that wherever you go, I'll follow. I can't speak for everyone else, but if you would find it easier to update a site on Wordpress, then you should do it.

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[The MAZZTer]

I use wordpress for my site. I never got around to making myself a "proper" website and it was just so much easier.

I suppose it doesn't make me look good as a website developer, but meh.

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[sweatervest]

Also if this were open-sourced then whoever wants to work on it needs to dissect the already present code to figure out how lucius' engine works and, from the technical posts he has given, that sounds like a formidable task, and then for any additions that get made by other people lucius would have to dissect that code in order to add his intended features on top. I am a big proponent of the open-source philosophy, but I think it only works if the project is designed and intended to be open-source from the beginning. Seeing that this is lucius' personal project, I doubt he's even put enough comments into the code to make it easily decipherable (why would he?).

But see I know where lucius is coming from. Two summers ago when I started coding an Atari Jaguar emulator I thought it was going to be able to run games by the end of that summer, and here we are a solid year after that "deadline" and I still haven't debugged the 68k enough to run the boot code. It's just the way these things go.

[Gez]

[lucius]

I'm not sure. Really DarkXL - even at it's height of activity - did not receive a lot of attention outside of this community. So I'm not sure how much it matters as long as everyone is informed. What do you guys think? As for forums, I see no reason not to continue here - I'm only talking about changing websites.

I will be working on the DarkXL site in the next few days and I will start blogging my progress there, similar to DaggerXL. Once the site is ready I'll link the projects together (i.e. have a "Projects" section with links on both sites), which should allow the popularity of one project to "feed" the other somewhat. The forums link points to these forums.

It's still very rough and early, but here is the link if you want to check out progress on making the site. As I said, it'll be a few days before anything "meaty" shows up.

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[Gez]

[sheepandshepherd]

I like the idea of a blog, it'll help keep the community informed of progress, and it's much better for chronologically displaying updates than a forum is. I've seen the DaggerXL website and I was quite impressed.

[Jon`C]

[Burning Gundam]

[The MAZZTer]

[Gez]