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Ghost Returns
Ree-Yees
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Matt K
Dark Trooper Phase 1
Joined: 27 Sep 2003
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Hiya Void! Nice to see you're still around (I mean that; I know we didn't always get along back in the day, but that's water under the bridge).
Nothing like a common enemy to bring out the old guard, eh? 
I wonder if Mattias still has no idea how he went from rockstar status in the DF community to being the crazy old hermit who lives down by the lake in a shack.
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Barry Brien
Dark Trooper Phase 1
Joined: 26 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 21, 2009 14:47 Post subject: |
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Am I the only person who actually got along with Mattias? He used to say some strange things, but I don't think he was a bad person. Maybe its because I'm not from the evil U.S. he never really pissed me off the same way he pissed other people off. I used to talk to him a good bit on msn and he was always sound, he helped me out with a lot of stuff. Even gave me a copy of the DF editor he was making (CDark or something?) which unfortunately I don't think I have any more, as it was very good.
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Lionel Fouillen
Gamorrean
Joined: 27 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 21, 2009 16:20 Post subject: |
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As I'm not an American butcher  , I also received a copy from CDark. I agreed with him once on these forums about something related to the war in Irak, but in general I thought he exaggerated.
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 21, 2009 18:23 Post subject: |
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I personally didn't understand why he hated us Americans so much. He seemed to have been more displeased with the politics and government but instead chose to take it out on the citizens. Not to mention a lot of what he said was pretty biased and stereotypical towards americans. Sure, I'll agree that some of us are the way he describes, but not all of us are like that. It's kind of like some of us bashing the Canadians all the time, or the English, or the French. I personally see no truth to these stereotypes so I don't see the point in bashing them. And most of the time when I hear people saying those things who are around my age, they do it just to be cool, which I find disgraceful.
It seems to me that he just had this general assumption that Americans are all Right-Wing, unintelligent, fat slobs. If he had the nerve to get to know ANY of the americans on this board pretty well without being overly critical, I'm sure his bias would have been shifted to at least respect a "minority".
Heck, I don't even know why it bothered me so much. Maybe because at the time, I was having a hard enough time dealing with people like him in real-life at school. I guess anytime someone has a problem with me and the reason doesn't seem justifiable, It just bugs me because I never understood why. In Mattias' case I was a problem because I was a stereotypical American. But what about me made me so stereotypical? I probably will never know the reason why.
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Ghost Returns
Ree-Yees
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Feb 21, 2009 18:31 Post subject: |
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Barry Brien wrote:
Am I the only person who actually got along with Mattias? He used to say some strange things, but I don't think he was a bad person. Maybe its because I'm not from the evil U.S. he never really pissed me off the same way he pissed other people off. I used to talk to him a good bit on msn and he was always sound, he helped me out with a lot of stuff. Even gave me a copy of the DF editor he was making (CDark or something?) which unfortunately I don't think I have any more, as it was very good.
Mattias had a lot of genius for what he knew all the way over in Sweden, but he liked to pretend he knew more than he actually did. Granted he was a computer science major (as far as I know), but his understanding of American culture and politics was limited to "Star Wars" and computers.
He knew absolutely nothing about the artistry that went into his "favorite films", the people who worked on them (who I used to work for), nor anything about the film and entertainment industry (which I just recently got my foot back into).
He knew absolutely nothing about American international relations, nor any kind of theory of geo-politics, but, because he had a lot of education in computer science and loosely related fields, he assumed, like a lot of other bone-headed geniuses, that he had expertise in things which he knew very little. That includes warfare.
And here's the thing that really gets me. I remember him saying how dangerous FPS games were via an article he'd read on neural input. But he completely ignored the fact that he loved Dark Forces, and that, presumably, storm troopers were living human beings whom the player shot with a blaster.
Then he went on to claim that the mouse had been developed in Sweden, as well as the digitized pad, claiming that two-codeveloped inventions consituted "many" in terms of computer hardware development.
I was working on computers in the 1970s as a kid, using teletypes at the Lawrence Hall of Science. My middle school was the first school in the world to teach programming to kids. And Mattias was swaggering around with his blown up Swedish ego, and getting in my face and everyone elses with his exaggerated expertise.
Sorry, but I'm a little pissed this morning 
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 21, 2009 20:54 Post subject: |
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I never really considered him genius. Just arrogant and stubborn. Kind of ironic if you think about it.
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Void
Dianoga
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
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Fish
Gamorrean
Joined: 29 Sep 2003
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2009 05:16 Post subject: |
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I often wonder how he would have acted to me if I had just lied and said I lived in Canada...
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klasodeth
Trandoshan
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2009 05:49 Post subject: |
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Wasn't it a Canadian who prompted his North America ban?
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Barry Brien
Dark Trooper Phase 1
Joined: 26 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2009 13:58 Post subject: |
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Who are all these old heads with new names?
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Barry Brien
Dark Trooper Phase 1
Joined: 26 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2009 15:51 Post subject: |
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Just found my copy of CDark again. I guess it would be unethical to post it.
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2009 17:53 Post subject: |
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As much as I disliked him, I have to agree with you that it would be unethical. It's not like he did anything to you, but I'm sure if it were any of the others that were blatantly insulted by him they would have "leaked" it out long ago as a form of revenge.
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Barry Brien
Dark Trooper Phase 1
Joined: 26 Sep 2003
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Well I wouldn't upload it as a form of protest against him. I'd only consider uploading it because I think it's worth sharing. The only thing is he asked me specifically not to do that. I don't know. Its been years, he obviously doesn't care about DF any more, it'd be a shame not to share it, in a way.
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 25, 2009 07:17 Post subject: |
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I actually think in a weird way it'd be hilarious if you did and soon after Mattias returns in a rabid rage, mad that his precious program was leaked. But like you said he could probably care less at this point.
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Tsophika
Gamorrean
Joined: 14 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Feb 25, 2009 07:54 Post subject: |
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His program is irrelevant at this point. It would actually be interesting to compare to DarkXL.
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klasodeth
Trandoshan
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Feb 25, 2009 10:24 Post subject: |
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I agree. Mattias' restrictive distribution of CDark is proof enough that he was never really interested in contributing to the Dark Forces community, and with an alternative on the horizon, why worry about CDark now? Besides, while it might have been interesting to see CDark in action, I'd rather not give Mattias a reason to come back and start flinging lit napalm again.
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Barry Brien
Dark Trooper Phase 1
Joined: 26 Sep 2003
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I dunno guys, I used CDark a bit on Dtide 4, its far superior to wdfuse in many ways. Haven't used the Darkxl editor yet, I must do that next.
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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Actually, until the editor for DXL is actually released, Cdark is pretty relevant. At least until the editor is done, it would be interesting to see what Mattias was brewing.
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lucius
DarkXL Developer
Joined: 17 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Feb 25, 2009 21:40 Post subject: |
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Its fine whether you decide to distribute the CDark editor or not. Just be aware that the DarkXL editor uses a different paradigm then CDark or WDFuse. From what I've seen (and read) CDark was modeled after WDFUSE to a degree whereas the DarkXL editor is more similar to a modern DOOM / Duke Nukem 3D style editor such as the Build Editor or DoomBuilder (actually closer to DoomBuilder 2). It also focuses a lot more on robust 3D editing.
My only concern is that if you learn a new editor - CDark - when it comes time to use DarkXL specific features you'll also have to learn the DarkXL editor.
I guess I just need to get the editor preview out. Hopefully next week. 
(ok no more off-topic DarkXL stuff in here)
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The MAZZTer
Death Star
Joined: 25 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 26, 2009 05:17 Post subject: |
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CDark has some modern stuff in it like a 3D renderer and... umm... stuff (I haven't used it in a while).
Also I think CDark messes up some sector names (it uppercases or lowercases them) so that the INF doesn't match up with the sectors and doesn't work.
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Ghost Returns
Ree-Yees
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Jeff Walters
Dianoga
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 27, 2009 18:08 Post subject: |
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Sadly Mattias was the kind of person who is toxic for any kind of community, because he had little interest in contributing anything beyond that which would have people bowing at his feet...and when that didn't happen, fireworks.
Basically the complete opposite of Alexei Novikov.
PS - hi void!
PPS - this forum seems different than the last time I came here, it's all jaggy...must be my monitor.
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Ghost Returns
Ree-Yees
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Feb 27, 2009 18:49 Post subject: |
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Alexi was just a regular guy with lots of smarts. A talented young dude who liked Star Wars, computers and gaming. A decent individual. And, one who actually completed and continued to work on the best editor for Jedi Knight. Unlike some other people 
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 27, 2009 19:15 Post subject: |
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Oh wow! Jeff Walters graces us with his presence! 
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Barry Brien
Dark Trooper Phase 1
Joined: 26 Sep 2003
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JJ2
Dianoga
Joined: 07 May 2008
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| Posted: Feb 27, 2009 19:53 Post subject: |
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And I spent a lot of years trying to forget about Mattias. No matter, if you gave your word not to share his program, don't share it. It isn't about whether he cares or not, it's about keeping your word. It just wouldn't be right to go back on it in a situation like this. Now to return to my hiding place and attempt to forget all over again.
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Feb 28, 2009 03:11 Post subject: |
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No! Stay with us and still forget of the evil
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Marley
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Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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