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Barry Brien
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PostPosted: Mar 03, 2009 17:23    Post subject: A long shot View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
I'm trying to install gtkradiant on my laptop so I can start doing some JA editing. The only problem is that I have vista and radiant won't work properly at all. I'm having lots of problems. I can only run the program in 256 colours, if I try any other way I get all these error messages.
Anyway I've been to lots of other forums looking for help, and there are plenty of solutions out there, just none that work for me. So as a last attempt I'm asking if anybody else here has ever had trouble running gtkradiant on vista, and if so were they able to overcome it? I tried all sorts of stuff, updating drivers, disabling visual themes, running in different compatibility modes etc. It's really annoying me because it'll work fine in 256 colour, mode, so I know it should work in normal mode. help!

The MAZZTer
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PostPosted: Mar 03, 2009 19:39    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Did you try the compatibility options, specifically disabling composition?

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Barry Brien
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PostPosted: Mar 03, 2009 19:48    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Yup. The error message I get reads "GtkLExt-WARNING (recursed) **: cannot create GdkGLContext aborting..."

Patrick Haslow
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PostPosted: Mar 04, 2009 13:08    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hey Barry, I know this will sound like a lazy answer, but since I can't comment on Vista, I'll give my advice anyways.

Get Windows XP and install it there instead. Now that I have worked in the industry a bit, I can say that developers by and large are completely ignoring Vista for games development. Both Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, and the (still) unreleased Wolfenstein games are created in versions of Radiant, and neither have been done on Vista machines. Too many headaches. Since they do it that way, I would make the effort to follow that path.

Barry Brien
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PostPosted: Mar 04, 2009 16:01    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Thanks Patrick. I was thinking of doing that, but I'm afriad I'll totally phrik up my laptop. I was reading about people with my model doing that and they lose their wireless and stuff. Anyway another option is to do a dual boot thing, but again I really wouldn't know what I was doing. But I think you're right Patrick, as I really want to start getting in to this seriously.

The MAZZTer
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PostPosted: Mar 04, 2009 17:04    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Patrick Haslow wrote:
Get Windows XP and install it there instead. Now that I have worked in the industry a bit, I can say that developers by and large are completely ignoring Vista for games development. Both Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, and the (still) unreleased Wolfenstein games are created in versions of Radiant, and neither have been done on Vista machines. Too many headaches. Since they do it that way, I would make the effort to follow that path.



I don't use Vista for gaming. I saw an admittedly shoddy benchmark that indicated that XP was far faster than Vista on single and dual core systems. On quad systems there is still a 19% reduction in performance from XP, and with more cores it grows more negligible (once we have 16 core systems Vista will finally start to run faster than XP).

Windows 7 is a slight bit better than Vista but largely still follows this pattern.

It fits with my personal experiences with Vista and Windows 7. Vista added a bunch of extra eye candy and stuff that is going to be slower. The article blames the slowness on new pervasive DRM but there's really no way to know and I doubt it's any ONE feature. Vista however also introduced better and faster multiprocessor support which would explain why the speed gap starts closing quickly with more processors.

It would be nice to see a more professional benchmark comparing XP speeds to Vista and 7 speeds on machines with different core amounts.

Of course Ubuntu (and Linux in general) beats them all in my personal experiences. Smile Just gaming is still a tad slower than XP but if 7 takes off and Wine finishes up DX9 work Ubuntu can start marketing to gamers...

Oh yeah try installing a new version of GTK and see if gtkradiant will run better...

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Barry Brien
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PostPosted: Mar 04, 2009 21:01    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Tried that. So I guess I need to start installing xp.

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