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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon

Joined: 28 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Oct 17, 2009 07:49    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
klasodeth wrote:
Jon`C wrote:
What? You must be joking.

CyberCraft Dark3D is going to be 100 times better when it is released.


Oh, that's right. I forgot. Indeed it's true, especially since he won't have to implement features for the decadent American audience.

I don't know what will be tougher, moving to Europe to play Dark3D when it releases, or figuring out how to divide my time between that and Duke Nukem Forever.


That totally made my day Laughing

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GreggD
Gamorrean

Joined: 05 May 2008
PostPosted: Oct 18, 2009 20:51    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Screw Dark3D, it's probably not the kind of labor of love that DarkXL is. And from what you guys are saying it's region locked. Why so low?

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lucius
DarkXL Developer
DarkXL Developer

Joined: 17 Feb 2008
PostPosted: Oct 18, 2009 21:27    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
GreggD wrote:
Screw Dark3D, it's probably not the kind of labor of love that DarkXL is. And from what you guys are saying it's region locked. Why so low?

Don't worry, they are being sarcastic. Dark3D was never finished and has been abandoned years ago (long before I started on DarkXL). The author was an interesting character that will always be remembered on these forums... I'm sure others would be happy to fill you in if you want.

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klasodeth
Trandoshan

Joined: 03 Mar 2008
PostPosted: Oct 18, 2009 22:01    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
GreggD wrote:
Screw Dark3D, it's probably not the kind of labor of love that DarkXL is. And from what you guys are saying it's region locked. Why so low?


Lucius got it right; we're just being sarcastic. It is my honest opinion that DarkXL is the best thing to ever happen to the Dark Forces community since the retail release of Dark Forces.

If you want a better understanding of what people really think of Mattias Weilander and Dark3D, read this Brief History of the Dark3D debacle. Because of Mattias' own actions, Dark3D will forever live in infamy. Any time you see a post speaking positively about Dark3D, look at the author's name. If the author's name isn't Mattias Weilander, it's virtually guaranteed to be sarcasm.

GreggD
Gamorrean

Joined: 05 May 2008
PostPosted: Oct 18, 2009 23:34    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
klasodeth wrote:
GreggD wrote:
Screw Dark3D, it's probably not the kind of labor of love that DarkXL is. And from what you guys are saying it's region locked. Why so low?


Lucius got it right; we're just being sarcastic. It is my honest opinion that DarkXL is the best thing to ever happen to the Dark Forces community since the retail release of Dark Forces.

If you want a better understanding of what people really think of Mattias Weilander and Dark3D, read this Brief History of the Dark3D debacle. Because of Mattias' own actions, Dark3D will forever live in infamy. Any time you see a post speaking positively about Dark3D, look at the author's name. If the author's name isn't Mattias Weilander, it's virtually guaranteed to be sarcasm.

Alright, thanks. I was wondering why everyone was so gung-ho on this. I suspected foul play, but never sarcasm. Which is unexpected, because the internet is a great place for sarcasm. Especially forums. >_____>

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Barry Brien
Dark Trooper Phase 1

Joined: 26 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Oct 19, 2009 00:21    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Patrick Haslow wrote:
Barry is 27? Time flies.



Crazy isn't it. :O

Barry Brien
Dark Trooper Phase 1

Joined: 26 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Oct 19, 2009 00:24    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Jon`C wrote:
Patrick Haslow wrote:
Oh yeah I remember you. Also had some epic flame wars with Mattias if I recall correctly.

Yup. I'm the reason Americans won't be able to play Dark3D when it comes out.



Aha, so that was you! Sorry, the memory isn't as good as it once was. Must be getting old.

Tom Manning
Trandoshan

Joined: 27 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Oct 19, 2009 21:38    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Barry Brien wrote:
Patrick Haslow wrote:
Barry is 27? Time flies.



Crazy isn't it. :O



Thanks, I was stating to feel old today until I read that. I turned 22 today. Man how time flies!

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Barry Brien
Dark Trooper Phase 1

Joined: 26 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Oct 19, 2009 21:59    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Happy birthday Tom Very Happy

Tom Manning
Trandoshan

Joined: 27 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 03:48    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Thanks Barry!

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CSunkyst
Dianoga

Joined: 05 Sep 2009
PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 04:33    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Rats... My birthday has come and gone (32) and I've nothing to show for it but Brutal Legend (awesome!)

Quick question for Lucius... Will DarkXL be made available in Finland?

lucius
DarkXL Developer
DarkXL Developer

Joined: 17 Feb 2008
PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 06:13    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
CSunkyst wrote:
Rats... My birthday has come and gone (32) and I've nothing to show for it but Brutal Legend (awesome!)

Quick question for Lucius... Will DarkXL be made available in Finland?

As long as you have Dark Forces and internet access. ( I bet I'm missing the sarcasm but my answer is accurate Razz )

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CSunkyst
Dianoga

Joined: 05 Sep 2009
PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 07:26    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
It was a Dark3D/Mattias reference. (unless you already know that and I'm actually missing your sarcasm)

CSunkyst
Dianoga

Joined: 05 Sep 2009
PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 07:30    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
though this is a real question, and I ask more out of curiosity more than anything else (seeing as I still own the original Dark Forces CD)

But would user made levels still be playable if you don't own a copy of Dark Forces? Actually I'd guess not because of the sprites and textures needed.

lucius
DarkXL Developer
DarkXL Developer

Joined: 17 Feb 2008
PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 08:22    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
CSunkyst wrote:
though this is a real question, and I ask more out of curiosity more than anything else (seeing as I still own the original Dark Forces CD)

But would user made levels still be playable if you don't own a copy of Dark Forces? Actually I'd guess not because of the sprites and textures needed.

I'm afraid not. However this is probably desired from a legal standpoint.

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Gez
Gamorrean

Joined: 05 May 2008
PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 08:34    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Theoretically, if the DarkXL source code and specs are opened up, then people could use it as a reference to create a Dark Force clone that could be used instead of the original game. See the "Freedoom" project which was started for Boom (one of the earliest and most influential Doom source port).

However, let's be honest, it's quite unlikely to happen. After all this time, Freedoom is still far from being finished, "Dave3D" (Duke Nukem) is dead, "Blasphemer" (Heretic) is in its early infancy, etc. Recreating a consistent collection of art assets (images, sounds, music, etc.) by a bunch of hobbyists is very difficult.

Marley
Gamorrean

Joined: 30 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 11:28    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
And slightly pointless seeing as you can pick it up pretty cheap on steam Very Happy

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Barry Brien
Dark Trooper Phase 1

Joined: 26 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 11:38    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Also Mattias wasn't Finnish, he was from next door in Sweden. I know because we used to have secret chats about how great it is not to be ignorant American butchers Smile


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The MAZZTer
Death Star
Death Star

Joined: 25 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Oct 20, 2009 14:04    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
The Dark Forces mod for JA has a bunch of assets that could be used to jump start such a "freedark" project.

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