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Led Hed
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Joined: 23 Oct 2003
PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 01:34    Post subject: few more problems!! :( View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
1) When I tested my level some of my textures appear all messed up whats wrong?

2) When I used Gold Wave to convert some .wav files to .voc, in the game the sound won't play, Whats wrong?

Mattias Welander
Trandoshan

Joined: 27 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 01:39    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
1) Most likely, the textures do not conform to the DF standard.

2) Most likely, the .VOC files do not conform to the DF standard.

Remember that DF only support a subset of the supported file formats, be they .BMs or .VOCs.

j-dogg
Gamorrean

Joined: 29 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 03:39    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
If I remember correctly, there is a certain type of setting the .wav file has to be saved as, I think in Goldwav it's mono, 8 bit or 16 bit, unsigned.

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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon

Joined: 28 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 04:34    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
1. Your palette was not converted correctly so colors don't appear the way they should. Make sure your textures coincide with the palette of the level you are editing.

2. Sorry, I am Mac Man. Can't help you with this problem.

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Led Hed
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 17:20    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
1) the pallete is set for my level and it appears correctly in the editor. Could it be the fact that my image is 41x23? (made to fit one wall in a room)


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Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 17:24    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
I've already answered that question, yes.

Led Hed
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Joined: 23 Oct 2003
PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 18:59    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
WEDIT IS GOING TOP MAKE ME PULL MY HAIR OUT!!!!!
not there is this room with a elevator that doesn't allow movement in it I used LANTFH to enter it and I couldn't move whats wrong?

2) I've tried every conversion setting but I didn't adjust the Rate of the sound... would anyone spare me several hours and tell me the rate for DF?

Mattias Welander
Trandoshan

Joined: 27 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 19:06    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Why not simply take a look at the DF specifications?

Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon

Joined: 28 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 20:52    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
The BM files go from any number that is a power or squar root of 2

example
2X2 bits

4X4 bits

8X8 bits

16X16

32X32

64X64 (Typical 8X8 in DF or normal square BM)

128X128 (Typical 16X16 BM in DF)

256X256 (32X32 hieght and width)

and so on.

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Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 20:56    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Burning Gundam wrote:
The BM files go from any number that is a ... squar root of 2



Amazing. I didn't know DF supported 1.4142...x1.4142... pixel textures.

Burning Gundam wrote:

example ... 2X2 bits ... 4X4 bits ... 8X8 bits



Even more amazing. Last time I looked, DF only supported 8 bit textures.

Led Hed
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 23:19    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
I got the .BM thing worked out now just need to know the sound Specs for DF and why I can't move in the one room

Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 23:21    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
The best way to learn to know the specs for DF is to read them.

Led Hed
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 23:23    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
well does anyone know the Rate that DF runs for sounds?

Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 23:25    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Yes. It is available in the specs.

Led Hed
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 23:27    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
and where can I find these "specs"

BTW golt the room working!!

Fenwar
Admiral Ackbar
Admiral Ackbar

Joined: 15 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 23:44    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
It's in the WDFUSE common files download:

http://df-21.net/downloads/utilities/w1632.zip

Hey - did you see that! A download that works.

Led Hed
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2004 23:57    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
thnx! I use WEDIT so I don't have that Razz
P.S. If you want to add more frustration into your life use Wedit to make DF levels. Two weeks you'll be in for an anger management class Gaurenteed Razz

Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon

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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2004 01:17    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
It does support 2X2 bit. I know this because there would be no greyfill or yellowfill BMs which are both about 4 or 16 bits each.

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Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2004 01:23    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Actually, it doesn't. DF only support indices into a 256 entry palette. 256 possible palette entries equals 8 bits (256 = 2^Cool. It does not support 4 bit color, nor does it support 16 bit color.

Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon

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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2004 01:33    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
No, I meant 4 bit pieces, not the color. I know the palette is 256, but I meant the amount of bits on the canvas.

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Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2004 01:40    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
The amount of bits on the "canvas" is exactly eight times the number of texels. Thus, a 2x2 texel texture equals 32 bits.

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Death Star
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2004 14:23    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Led Hed wrote:
why I can't move in the one room



You likely have two overlapping vertices. There is a demonstration of this (I think it's a level called "Freeze" or something).

To find these vertices, find the sector you can't move around in in WEDIT. Switch to vertex editing mode (I dunno how to use WEDIT, I use WDFUSE) and hit the next vertex button to cycle through the vertices in your sector. When you hit next and it seems to select the same vertex, delete it... it's a duplicate.

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Nottheking
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PostPosted: Jan 19, 2004 18:21    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
If you're going to be including custom textures, just increase the size of it so that the dimensions are a power of two. I'm not sure if it affects things, but it may also help to have the dimensions be the same.

Also, if you happen to be texturing the floor/ceiling, the textures will be distorted no matter what unless they are 64x64 pixels. There are ways around this, of course... Such as splitting a sector into several smaller ones, or using a 3DO for the floor/ceiling...

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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon

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PostPosted: Jan 19, 2004 21:20    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
I find the 64X64 pixel thing for the ceiling and floors interesting, because for a while, it worked when I used any size. And then after a while, the texture became distorted. Oh well.

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Led Hed
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2004 23:41    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
thanks!!! But NTK I already fixed it but the explination was useful (Anyone here use WEDIT and find it'll creat staircases that the floor is higher then the roof? It's an interesting effect for falling roof traps Razz )
But now I have another problem... WEDIT DELETED MY BLOODY LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Casey Neumiller
Gamorrean

Joined: 24 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Jan 27, 2004 01:04    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Er...that's the very, very bad thing about Wedit. If you're using Wedit, make sure you use approximately 18 backups...

Nottheking
Kell Dragon

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PostPosted: Jan 28, 2004 18:31    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
I haven't ever tried WEdit. I never had any incentive to; WDFUSE is extremely competent... So much that there's only one feature that I'd like to see added (cleave/merge sectors), and only one apparent bug (poor adjoin selection)...

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Barry Brien
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Joined: 26 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Jan 28, 2004 21:40    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Wedit is crap. Once you get sed to Wdfuse, there's no point in using Wedit. Of course once we have CDark there'll be no point in using Wdfuse.

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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2004 13:26    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote
Heh, <3 CDark.

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Nottheking
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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2004 21:50    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Of course...

CDark>WDFUSE>WEdit

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