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[Matt H]

Beyond Glory 2: In Dying Light by Kevin Buscemi (* * * * *)

TACC: 94%
Ord Mantell: A+

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[Burning Gundam]

One of my all time favorites !

The music was great, the texturing and architecture was nearly flawless, and everything else about this level just shined!

1: Again, the plot was great.

2: The garden area was absolutely beautiful, the best I've seen in a DF level.

3: The urgency of the whole mission was interesting.

4: The radio chatter in forground was added an interesting feel to the level.

5: The puzzle to destroy the underground generator had me guessing for some time. It was very cleverly incorporated.

6: And my favorite feature, the laser cannon rooms. THAT WAS AWSOME!

The one problem I could find was that it dragged on after a while, but it was fun all the way through. I give it 9 of 10!

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[Casey Neumiller]

:: the heretic steps forward ::

I actually wasn't fond of BG2. Some of the puzzles were great(like the generators), some puzzles were unrealistic (in my opinion), but some of the things, like the laser cannons, didn't seem at all realistic to me. If the lasers are shooting straight up, what happens when an X-wing comes it at an angle? They can't shoot it.

I liked parts of it, but I didn't think it was near as great as everyone said. Beyond what I can do, yes; one of the top five? Not in my opinion.

[Darth Oosha]

Show us a laser cannon shooting at an angle, WDFUSE Boi.

Maybe what I really meant to say was, "How else was he supposed to do the cannons? This *is* DF, after all. Anyway, if the X-wings were high enough up, you wouldn't see the difference in firing angle."

[Nottheking]

Beyond Glory 2: In Dying Light is a serious improvement over the first. The plot may sound a little used by the first, but it's refurbished enough to make it one of the rare legitimate sequels. The atmosphere was actually improved, making this one of the few missions I actually liked to stop and look at the scenery for a notabel period of time. The place actually felt like a 20000+ year-old palace. The arcitecture was amazing, and I was happy to see that the majority of them were brand new, where the first Beyond Glory mostly re-used LEC's. Gameplay was excelent, with the enemies providing just enoug challenge, and reasonable placement of items. The puzzles, especially the garden generator, was deviously clever. Also, the later sections had an amazing feel to them, as if there really was something going on up in orbit. Beyond Glory 2: In Dying Light, while I judge that it falls a tiny ammount short of a HoF level, is nonetheless an excelent level. It's easily the best level currently out there that's not in the HoF, and I hope that Scape Goat might introduce enough rigidity into his management of resources so that we might see a SE, which I woulf gladly vote into the HoF. For anybody who hasn't played it yet, get it now! Your next piece of "free time" belongs to Scape Goat's magnificient piece of work. (No mailocks were harmed in the making of this level!)

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[Tom Manning]

[Barry Brien]

I really liked the cannon room, though I know where Casey is coming from. However, I think that what seperates a good author from a great author is the ability to work with such an old engine and still achieve amazing new effets and spectacles, and that's what ScapeGoat did.

The still dislike the music though. Hopefully Cloudspear will feature something more Star-Warsesque

[Burning Gundam]

Remember, Barry, the Star Wars universe is pretty flexible. Just as long as it involves something to do with Star Wars in the grand scheme, it works just fine. They mentioned a lot of Star Wars themes in there: The Blue Squadron, the empire building a doomsday weapon, etc. etc.

I dunno, that's just my opinion.

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[Nottheking]

I liked the music, although I admit that it was decidely un-Star Wars. However, it fit in well enough, and it helped contribute to the age of the setting: pre-pre-Star Wars. I imagine the galaxy was extremely different before the Galactic Republic, and the Jedi Order.

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[Darth Oosha]

I can only think of one reason to make an SE: to split up the level so you don't have to complete it all at once. I always imagined it splitting at the point where you go through the deactivated force field

I don't think I mentioned test during the beta test, but I certainly thought about it by the time I finally reached the end. The same goes for Ironfort.

Either that, or port the whole thing to Jedi Academy and then SW Battlefront.

[Nottheking]

[Nottheking]

Using my "new" rating system:

• Quality: 89%
  
• Atmosphere: 100%
  
• Innovation: 96%
  
• Gameplay: 93%
  
• Overall: 95%

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[Burning Gundam]

After having played this under DOSBox, I can understand Barry Brien's earlier comment concerning the music used in this level. The music is DRAMATICALLY different on windows than it is on a macintosh, so I can agree with his comments that the music does seem a bit misplaced.

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[j-dogg]

I can't figure out how to disable the 2nd generator. any tips? I got to the part with the pistons going up and down I can't figure out how to shut it down.

Level is good so far. I tried at it for an hour, I don't do puzzles well.

Graphics are awesome. Could do without the music.

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J-Dogg: Formerly known as Death_Blood_Fire

Member since March 1999

[Burning Gundam]

It's been a while since I've played it, but I know it involves flooding it by pumping water to it. I can't remember the process but I know it involves that small fountain/pool in the garden (Not the pond adjacent to the pistons).

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[j-dogg]

That's what I thought it involved. I know that fountain moves but I can't figure out how to do it.

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J-Dogg: Formerly known as Death_Blood_Fire

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[sheepandshepherd]

Yeah, that took me a looong time to figure out. IIRC, there's two different switches, one opens up the fountain/pool thing, the other turns on the water pumps. It's timed, you have to run across the courtyard.

[j-dogg]

well that explains it. im taking my sweet time getting back. ill take another crack at it tonight.

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J-Dogg: Formerly known as Death_Blood_Fire

Member since March 1999

[j-dogg]

I figured it out. Awesome level.

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J-Dogg: Formerly known as Death_Blood_Fire

Member since March 1999