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[Scape Goat]

Is there any way to make a wall that can be shot through from one side but not the other? I don't think so, but I figured I'd ask just in case someone knows something I don't.

[Nottheking]

I think you could jury-rig a "wall" to block any enemy shots as they passed through... The sectors would look like this:

[JJ]

It should be possible to create the illusion of such a thing using elevators or adjoins that block the shot from one side and allow it through from the other

[Darth Oosha]

I think it was back when Star's End was added to the Hall of Fame. I asked why Mohc doesn't attack immediately when you first see him, and someone said that the adjoin you see him through is initially flagged to be visible in one direction, but not the other. At the time, I didn't think that was possible. Does anyone have that thread archived?

[Burning Gundam]

I thought it would be possible to do that by just giving one wall the "cannot fire through wall" flag on one and not the other before adjoining. I know it works with textures.

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[Casey Neumiller]

I don't have that kept anywhere, but it's an easy technique...it's the "No Shooting" technique I used on stormtroopers and BB used abundantly in "Assassination on Nar Shaddaa." It's pretty simple; you give one wall (the wall on the player's side) the correct adjoins; leave the other wall (the wall on the enemy's side) at -1 -1 -1 and you are set.

[Patrick Haslow]

I had always thought NTK's tactic would work. The timing is tight and would probably need tweaking. I thought of making a force field on an enemy whereby sector 2 walls would be set to block fire, but when the enemy shot in that direction it would cross sector 1, disabling the sector 2 flags, and then sector 2's flags would quickly reset themselves to block incoming fire.

Enemy is behind sector_1, with sector_2 beyond.

item: sector name: sector _1
class: elevator move_floor
event_mask: ? (shoot)
entity_mask: ? (enemy shots)
speed: 0
stop: 0 hold
message: 0 sector_2 goto stop 1
stop: 1 hold
message: 1 sector_2 goto stop 1
sound: 1 0
sound: 2 0
sound: 3 0


item: sector name: sector_2
class: elevator move_floor
event_mask: 0
speed: 0
stop: 0 hold
message: 0 sector_2(0) set_bits 3 8
stop: 1 0.2
message: 1 sector_2(0) clear_bits 3 8
sound: 1 0
sound: 2 0
sound: 3 0

I'm sure my INF is sloppy...

[Nottheking]

I do think Pat's would be easier to work with than the idea I suggested... However, it reminded me that (in my technique) the walls the block the shots should also have triggers to reset the switches when shot, thus making cleaner timing.

Casey's is obviously simple (and it works), though it makes it so the player cannot get to the other side of the wall, which I don't think is what Scape Goat had in mind.

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[Scape Goat]

Putting -1s on one side of the wall managed to accomplish exactly what I was looking for. I'd though of that, but assumed it wouldn't work for various reasons.

Shows what I know... Anyway, thanks for the help.

[Casey Neumiller]

...my post was about why the Phase III DT didn't attack you in Stars' End...

[Patrick Haslow]

Right, CN, your analysis was correct. It's cool to know that someone is finally implementing this effect. I always wanted to see it in action but couldn't think of a reason to include it in my work, and I have little interest in demos...so, COOL.

[Nottheking]