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DarthDoctor
Gamorrean

Joined: 29 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Oct 18, 2003 13:03    Post subject: DT3 Speculation View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

I was gaming the other day, and got in a debate about Dark Forces.

View number 1:
The "DT3" never existed, the final boss was just Mohc in a battle suit (hence the tracking missles and all)

View number 2:
Mohc was the first DT3 operator. The DT3 are amoured battle suits allowing Imperial Troopers the Glory of Battle(R).

View number 3:
The DT3, rather than handled by a computer, was radio controlled by Mohc, allowing the Glory of Battle(R) without danger to life and limb.

View number 4: (this one is a little strange)
Mohc, sure of himself and his project, had his brain surgically implanted in the latest DT prototype.


Where do you stand? I'm mostly at 2, maybe a little three.

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Taton
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PostPosted: Oct 18, 2003 13:27    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

I think it was number 2 as well. However Starwars Villains have this thing about showing up again when their supposed to be dead.

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Lundquist
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PostPosted: Oct 18, 2003 15:02    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I always figured he was inside it, why else would he scream(moan?) when he goes down?
So I'll go for 2 as well.

GAdRS
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Joined: 03 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Oct 18, 2003 21:25    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Oh yes, I'm pretty sure that it's #2, but don't forget that they can be automated. There doesn't have to be a human inside.

Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Oct 19, 2003 01:02    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Considering the evolved Dark Troopers in Jedi Academy, and some descriptions in the EU texts, I'd say #2 sounds most reasonable.

The MAZZTer
Death Star
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PostPosted: Oct 19, 2003 11:36    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

I thought this thread would be discussing Dark Tide 3 O_o...

I definately believe it's 2.

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Taylor
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Joined: 25 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Oct 19, 2003 13:56    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

What possible support does #3 have?? Confused

Jackson
Dark Trooper Phase 2

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PostPosted: Oct 19, 2003 19:49    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Mattias Welander wrote:
Considering the evolved Dark Troopers in Jedi Academy



I'm intrigued (and don't have JA)... Do tell!

Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon

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PostPosted: Oct 20, 2003 00:12    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

I agree with number 2.

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Taton
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PostPosted: Oct 20, 2003 01:06    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

If I say number 4, will I start a contraversy?

If not, I still say its number 2...

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Tom Resnick
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PostPosted: Oct 20, 2003 12:24    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I've argued in favor of #4 before, Manning. You have my wholehearted support on that one.

And not #3. Radio-controlled shmadio-controlled.

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Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Oct 20, 2003 15:29    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Jackson wrote:
Mattias Welander wrote:
Considering the evolved Dark Troopers in Jedi Academy



I'm intrigued (and don't have JA)... Do tell!



Well, while they're not mentioned by name in JA, they look like Dark Troopers and behave like Dark Troopers - but they sound like there's a man inside.

Nottheking
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PostPosted: Oct 20, 2003 19:26    Post subject: Insert subject here! View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I'd pick #2. The Expanded Universe (EU) at www.starwars.com says that they can also be automated... Perhaps they can be adapted for each mission?

As for JA, a return of Dark Troopers makes it much more interesting... ([i]i don't have JA either)Mattias, do you think they were meant to be DTs? If so, that would yield an interesting plot twist of a sort... Just don't spoil it for me...

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Mattias Welander
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PostPosted: Oct 20, 2003 21:55    Post subject: Re: Insert subject here! View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Nottheking wrote:
As for JA, a return of Dark Troopers makes it much more interesting... ([i]i don't have JA either)Mattias, do you think they were meant to be DTs? If so, that would yield an interesting plot twist of a sort... Just don't spoil it for me...



I'll try not to spoil it, then. Yes, I think they were meant to be DTs or at the very least be a reference to DTs. No, I don't think they are a plot twist. I believe they are simply there as a homage to the original DF. After all, there are other such original DF references in the game, too.

Tom Manning
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PostPosted: Oct 20, 2003 23:58    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Tom Resnick wrote:
I've argued in favor of #4 before, Manning. You have my wholehearted support on that one.



What about me???

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Tom Resnick
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PostPosted: Oct 21, 2003 22:21    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Hey, guess what, Manning!
I screwed you up with Darth Doctor!
Isn't that funny?!?

My bad, sorry.

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Barry Brien
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PostPosted: Oct 23, 2003 17:08    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

I remember reading somewhere that the DT3 troopers could be worn as a suit, but they could also act independantly, like the other Dark Troopers.

DarthDoctor
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PostPosted: Oct 24, 2003 17:21    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

I've heard some old people who left adament notes in their readmes about the DT3 "Never existing."

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Nottheking
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PostPosted: Oct 24, 2003 18:15    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Barry Brien wrote:
I remember reading somewhere that the DT3 troopers could be worn as a suit, but they could also act independantly, like the other Dark Troopers.


That's at the starwars.com databank entry for Dark Troopers, at:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/droid/darktroopers/eu.html

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Kir Kanos
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PostPosted: Oct 25, 2003 06:46    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I often question the official Star Wars website's entries, but if that is the canon we're to accept, I think it's pretty clear that General Mohc was in a combat shell himself when he fought Kyle. If the DT3 suit was capable of acting on it's own, I see where the debate here is.

My thought was that obviously Rom must have had his own personal combat outfit made by the time he fought Kyle, since he was so fanatical about the honour of personal combat. Perhaps his ultimate plan was to upgrade Imperial Stormtroopers to Dark Troopers. (This kind of makes sense in the context of that whole conversation that is found in jedisfx.lfd) Anyway, why would Mohc want a machine to have the pleasure of killing Kyle when he was so "worthy" for himself?

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