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eargosedown
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Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Jan 06, 2005 16:47 Post subject: tie fighter |
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how can i get a tie fighter 3do fly arownd outside a window????
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jan 08, 2005 19:40 Post subject: |
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Make a VUE file for it.
(Can't help you there though, I use a mac and there is no way to make one except by hand)
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eargosedown
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Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Jan 09, 2005 22:42 Post subject: |
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i should know but whats a vue file and how dose it work, is it like an AI?
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Nottheking
Kell Dragon
Joined: 29 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jan 11, 2005 17:23 Post subject: |
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eargosedown wrote:
i should know but whats a vue file and how dose it work, is it like an AI?
No, it's actually more like a keyframe animation. In fact, that's EXACTLY what it is. It's a set of data that gives the object information on how to position itself, and nothing more. However, that's not saying much, given that virtually every single one of the major addon levels for DF relies heavily on VUEs. Condition Red is the best example, and as far as I understand, still holds the record for the msot VUEs, as it uses them to control the movement of the entire battle shown outside the space station, as well as some things inside, such as the movement of R2-D2 and C-3PO.
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eargosedown
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Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Jan 11, 2005 20:11 Post subject: |
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thay have a battle out side wow  im downloading that now, anyway how do a make vue file and is there any info on how to make one(like a toturiol)thanks in advance
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eargosedown
Gamorrean
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Jan 13, 2005 16:26 Post subject: |
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condition red was a great level, but i cant get past the time limet,and i fond the supersecret area!
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Tom Manning
Trandoshan
Joined: 27 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jan 13, 2005 16:53 Post subject: |
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If you keep trying, you can get past the time limit, you just have to play it several times to know what your doing.
Gosh, I would love to beable to make VUEs, but alas, everytime I open a vue file on my Mac and try and make sense of the numbers, it just kinda goes over my head.
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eargosedown
Gamorrean
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Jan 13, 2005 19:51 Post subject: |
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well i mad a test vue, i used a utility in the downloads page, it's called vueCAD but it's hard to work with and i cant findout how to make the 3do to turn, my problem with code RED is i get distracted by all the amazing stuff in the level, oh and is there a way to make a rebel troop the fights on your side then dies when shot at????
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Tom Manning
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| Posted: Jan 13, 2005 23:04 Post subject: |
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Well, the rebel troops in Condition Red aren't really fighting, if you watch, they never actually kill any Stromtroopers. Though I suppose you could have them standing in a small sector, and have WAXs of troops that die when shot at, and have INF on all the sector walls that shut off the VUE of the laser when a real bullet crosses it. That would be pretty interesting.
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japh
Gamorrean
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jan 16, 2005 15:37 Post subject: |
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Do that, and half the computers still capable of playing DF will die from INF overload.
I used a spreadsheet to make the only VUE I've ever made.:w
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eargosedown
Gamorrean
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Jan 16, 2005 17:15 Post subject: |
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lol ya, maybe if i make a outside battle and half of the stormtroopers real and half with a vue then have all the rebal troops vues thay might work, then have tie bombers that drop bombs and dark troopers that just run through reb troops and cutt them in half, then do something that makes the screen blery and call it "battle star(the day that kyle dies)"
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Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jan 16, 2005 17:50 Post subject: |
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Paul Nemish made a little tutorial on how to do it in spreadsheet, but I took one look at a VUE file in Microsoft Office and was depressed to find how time consuming even making a simple fly-by would be to write by hand, which is why I urged Brad Oliver to make a VUE editor for mac.
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japh
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| Posted: Jan 16, 2005 18:18 Post subject: |
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eargosedown, I know it's fashionable to be incoherent these days, but try to make an attempt, please.
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eargosedown
Gamorrean
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Jan 17, 2005 20:41 Post subject: |
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sry, i like vueCAD, it's somewhat easy to use, and that battle whould be posable, yet hard. i may do something like that for my level.
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Tom Manning
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eargosedown
Gamorrean
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Jan 18, 2005 00:16 Post subject: |
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in what way??
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Tom Manning
Trandoshan
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| Posted: Jan 18, 2005 00:42 Post subject: |
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Just the way that he wrote it.
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eargosedown
Gamorrean
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Jan 18, 2005 00:44 Post subject: |
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oh, has anyone else used vueCAD?
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Nottheking
Kell Dragon
Joined: 29 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jan 18, 2005 19:33 Post subject: |
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eargosedown wrote:
oh, has anyone else used vueCAD?
Yes, I have used it, and have used a VUE made with it in the only level I've ever released. However, there's the distinct problem that VUECad's Windows only, and Tom Manning's trouble is stemming from the fact that he has a Mac.
My suggestion to Mac users? Try to see if you can get some form of Windows emulation, get a cheap Windows PC, or perhaps the best solution; install VUECad on a public Windows computer, (such as at a campus computer lab) and do your work there. It's actually quite simple from there; just make sure you have acopy of your .LEV file, so that VUECad can display the layout. From there, it's actually quite simple to make even a rather long VUE; most of the bulk of the space stems from the fact that most VUEs involve curves, and since a VUE is a keyframe-based animation file that uses absolute data... (instead of relative) It takes of lots of space, since, say, the VUE for the Crow landing in Prelude to Harkov's Defection has arround 300 nodes.
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eargosedown
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| Posted: Jan 18, 2005 20:43 Post subject: |
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two things:
1 how do i input in vueCAD turns and rolls,
2 how do i input the .lev file in the CAD
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Tom Manning
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Joined: 27 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jan 18, 2005 22:34 Post subject: |
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Nottheking wrote:
[it's actually quite simple to make even a rather long VUE; most of the bulk of the space stems from the fact that most VUEs involve curves, and since a VUE is a keyframe-based animation file that uses absolute data... (instead of relative) It takes of lots of space
I think If I could actually use it, it would be pretty easy for me, I've worked with Adobe After Effects, and it sounds somewhat alike.
By the way, maybe this is a dumb question, but there isn't anyway to get a windows emulator, just for DF purposes, without paying money, and without ripping it illegaly is there?
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Nottheking
Kell Dragon
Joined: 29 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jan 19, 2005 19:00 Post subject: |
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Tom Manning wrote:
I think If I could actually use it, it would be pretty easy for me, I've worked with Adobe After Effects, and it sounds somewhat alike.
By the way, maybe this is a dumb question, but there isn't anyway to get a windows emulator, just for DF purposes, without paying money, and without ripping it illegaly is there?
Hmm... I'm not quite sure if there's a free PC emulator availible. However, I do think I recall seeing some that were actually availible at a price reasonable for home users, arround $50-60US, or possibly less. In that case, I might suggest going with the borrowind another PC option...
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Tom Manning
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Well, I'm a junior in highschool right now, and, I can't say that I expect I'l ever get a level to a point where I am ready for VUEs, especially now, I am getting a lot more involved in acting, I even have a meeting with a talent agency on Monday. I'm pretty busy right now and I don't know when I would find a time to finish a level.
Sucks though, I have so many awesome ideas, though prolly everyone else does too.
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The MAZZTer
Death Star
Joined: 25 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Jan 20, 2005 13:06 Post subject: |
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There are a few open source PC emulators. You have to install an OS on them (this works just fine: http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71/ ).
Here is a small list of emulators: http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/62
Scroll down past the ReactOS nonsense. ;o
However, I have never had a need to use an emulator. If you use Windows NT/2K/XP, it is quite possible to get DF working 100%. Google around for and download VDMSound and the VDMS Launcher. Install them both and you can use them with DF (might be a bit before you understand enough about how they work to begin to tweak it enough).
The general idea is to run the IMUSE.EXE with VDMS and then run DARK.EXE after it's been configed. If you have bad soud quality problems, go into the VDMS Shortcut properties and try changing the device under Soundblaster and Adlib to a Wave device.
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