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Madine
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Joined: 14 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Aug 14, 2004 11:59    Post subject: *cough* Level thoughts/request for help View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Hey all... Reincarnated again with the original SN.

New project: Shadow Walk. Basically MGS gameplay in DF. Stealthsuits, silenced pistol, the works... Even security cameras (easy as crap to code).

I'm aiming for gameplay reminiscient of MGS, with emphasis on stealth for as much of the game as possible.

Expect lots of duct work and some ridiculously detailed locations. Cool

I'm also going to incorporate weather effects, in the form of snow and haze. I'd like at least one major boss fight (easy enough to say, right?).

My goals are as follows:
1) Stun the crap out of you. Beautiful architecture is my desire.
2) Thrill you. Stealth gameplay, if done right, can be soooo much fun.
3) Build a realistic world. Bathrooms, dormitories, everything. I'm aiming for the most open level possible. If it has a door, it can probably be opened... Eventually.
4) Go where no-one has gone before. A TC based on stealth? I'm actually surprised one was never released. The Stormtrooper AI is perfect for it...


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Madine
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PostPosted: Aug 14, 2004 12:55    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

I need the following created:

3DOs:
1x Commanche Helicopter body (angular, no protrusions. EASY to do.)
1x Commanche Rotors (again, EASY to do)
1x Abrams tank body (angular, easy)
1x Abrams tank turret (angular, easy... see a trend?)
1x Security Camera (a box with a mounting post)

VOCs: I will need some voice actors at some point

The current plan calls for two levels, as described below:

Level 1) Shadow Walk: Arctic Chill
-The hero (name undecided) needs to infiltrate a NORAD-esque facility in Antarctica and reach an elevator to the lower levels undetected.
Level 2) Shadow Walk: Day of Thunder
-The hero takes the elevator down to the facility's core and assassinates a commander. Afterwards the hero needs to escape to an egress point near the base.

Burning Gundam
Kell Dragon

Joined: 28 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Aug 14, 2004 15:18    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

So this level has absolutely nothing to do with DF?

..........interesting.

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Tom Resnick
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PostPosted: Aug 14, 2004 20:02    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

I can do voice acting... just drop me an e-mail.

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Madine
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PostPosted: Aug 15, 2004 01:59    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Nope, Gundam, it's a TC.

Tom, thanks a bunch, you do good stuff.


I'm playing Splinter Cell and MGS, getting lots of ideas...

Taton
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PostPosted: Aug 17, 2004 00:38    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Hmmm... How ya gonna incorporate stealth?

I toyed with ideas a few times, but I kept being burned by the shear number of sectors I would need. Not to mention code.

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Madine
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PostPosted: Aug 17, 2004 11:59    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Well, it's fairly simple. I'm using a part sector-based approach, part object-based.

I'm not sure how to explain it.

A shorter 'teaser' is being made now to showcase the ideas (and also tone up my skills) that takes place in the standard DF world. It's pretty fun so far.

Tom Manning
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PostPosted: Aug 21, 2004 22:35    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Hey dude, I have a somewhere between 200 and 600 textures I took from rogue spear a while ago when I was working on a TC, I actully was inspired to make a minilevel but I can send them your way, I probably have quite a bit that will save you alot of time making your own texures.

Let me know if you are interested.

Ohh, and the levels should be great, Swat TC was perhaps the greatist insperation to me to edit, even if I have never put anything out.

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Madine
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PostPosted: Aug 22, 2004 15:22    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Hehe, thanks, even though it was unfinished, buggy, and sucked... Razz

Yes, please send those my way, they could be amazingly useful!

Tom Manning
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2004 00:12    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

all right, you wil have them ASAP.

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Nottheking
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PostPosted: Aug 30, 2004 14:33    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Stealth-based? I could see that. I had the idea to put a few stealth elements (very few) in my DF series, though I doubt I'll ever even update the page (I've finished working on the plot for good)... And by security cameras, I'm thinking of 007 GoldenEye... Am I correct? (camera sees you for 3-5 seconds, rings alarm)

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Madine
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PostPosted: Aug 31, 2004 00:19    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

More like Splinter Cell - you get sighted, alarms go off, stormies pour out.

Nottheking
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PostPosted: Aug 31, 2004 16:33    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Madine wrote:
More like Splinter Cell - you get sighted, alarms go off, stormies pour out.


Immediately? That could be tougher... 007 gives you a few seconds to shoot the camera first... But then again, the timer began when the player had a direct, clear line to the camera, regardless of the way it was facing...

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Madine
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PostPosted: Sep 01, 2004 00:10    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

That's the point... I want it to be tough. No Rambo sh!t. Wink

Nottheking
Kell Dragon

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PostPosted: Sep 01, 2004 14:02    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Madine wrote:
That's the point... I want it to be tough. No Rambo sh!t. Wink


Just last night, I came up with a brilliant idea for security cameras. The effect would be a camera (either mounted on the floor, ceiling, or on a wall bracket), that would pass back and forth. If the player entered its field of view, the camera would attempt to track the player for up to 5 seconds, then ring an alarm. If the player went too far from the camera, or arround a corner, they would be safe. Also, I've figured out how to make a camera you could shoot before it has a chance to alert anyone; I prefer this kind of stealth to instant armies, and I'm putting this idea into use in a "small" (less than 1000 sectors) level I've just started building.

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Madine
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PostPosted: Sep 01, 2004 15:05    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Reply with quote

Really? A shootable camera that detects you? Could you e-mail me with more details?

Nottheking
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PostPosted: Sep 01, 2004 16:02    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

Madine wrote:
Really? A shootable camera that detects you? Could you e-mail me with more details?


No, you'll have to wait for my level to be finished. Wink

I've found new energy for editing DF, so it won't take anywhere near forever... I might even post a project page with screenshots within a week! (The plot, objectives, and layout of the mission have already been decided)

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Epi
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2004 08:03    Post subject: View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote

You could use that camera idea to make some kind of a system shock2/star wars style mixed story line Smile ,
as soon as im finished with this uni corse, im getting stuck into df for sure

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